Kon Tiki Sky starting flights from Antwerp?

VEX802 · Post by **VEX802** » 09 Mar 2012, 12:20

http://www.kontikisky.com/index.php/en/ ... hts/77-now

According to their website, the Serbian Airline Kon Tiki Sky will start several routes from Antwerp Airport:

ANTWERP FLIGHTS FROM 01-05-2012;

SKOPJE (SKP)
2 times weekly from € 70 ALL INN!

LONDON (SEN)
14 times weekly from € 35 ALL INN!

SOFIA (SOF)
3 times weekly from € 70 ALL INN!

BUCHAREST (BBU)
2 times weekly from € 70 ALL INN!

BARCELONA (GRO)
4 times weekly from € 60 ALL INN!

ALICANTE (ALC)
2 times weekly from € 70 ALL INN!

Anyone more details about the reliability of this information?

Bralo20 · Post by **Bralo20** » 09 Mar 2012, 12:26

I'm not sure, the official website is http://kontiki.mk/ but since my Macedonian is a bit rusty I can't find any flights to Antwerp on this site.

Stij · Post by **Stij** » 09 Mar 2012, 12:29

Well I'll be... First I thought... a hoax, but then...
I tried the website... and well, they allow you to book...
I ckecked the internet, and they appear to exist.

Cheers,

Stij

VEX802 · Post by **VEX802** » 09 Mar 2012, 12:33

Just a random search:

Antwerp Airport - ANR > Alicante Airport (ALC)DateSaturday, 18 August 2012Flight No.ALR717Departure17:45Arrival20:00ClasseconomyPrice2x €70.00
.
Alicante Airport (ALC) > Antwerp Airport - ANRDateThursday, 23 August 2012Flight No.ALR718Departure06:30Arrival08:45ClasseconomyPrice2x €70.00

According to their website, they have a mixed fleet of 737-500, ATP and RJ85. Very strange.

Bralo20 · Post by **Bralo20** » 09 Mar 2012, 12:36

The registrant of kontikisky.com seems also a bit sketchy:

Registrant:
Sobel Group NV
E. van Achteren
Palissade 5
Hellevoetsluis, 3221LX
NL
Phone: +31.483410167
Email: e.achteren@btggroup.nl

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: kontikisky.com
Created on..............: 2012-01-06
Expires on..............: 2013-01-06

Administrative Contact:
Sobel Group NV
E. van Achteren
Palissade 5
Hellevoetsluis, 3221LX
NL
Phone: +31.483410167
Email: e.achteren@btggroup.nl

Technical Contact:
Provider B.V.
M.B. van den Brink
Postbus 10
Nijmegen, 6500AA
NL
Phone: +31.243440155
Email: info@provider.nl

The same person has also sobelairbe.com on his name. The company is registered at the KVK as a foreign company and is part of Sobel Terminals NV (now renamed to Sobel Group NV with address in Hoogstraten, Belgium). This company changed a bit of their activities in the Belgian register last November but I can't see any airline activities nor travel included.

So I'm very doubtfull that it's real...

Airbus A330 · Post by **Airbus A330** » 09 Mar 2012, 12:38

The 737-500 is Z3-AAM !

http://www.airliners.net/photo/MAT-Airw ... d24c840818

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 09 Mar 2012, 12:41

It seems that the 14 weekly flights Antwerp-Southend mean 7 flights each way, ie one daily return flight ...

Passenger · Post by **Passenger** » 09 Mar 2012, 15:15

Long time ago - back in 2004 - there was a company in the Netherlands "Jets-sky" who wanted to do about the same thing: offering very cheap flights from AMS. However, research from De Telegraaf showed they had no leasing contract for aircraft. Check this topic:
viewtopic.php?t=2962&p=23109

The same story happened again in 2007, this time out of Antwerp : Sobelair Sun Tours. They also had no lease contract for aircraft. Their project was stopped when the two persons behind this set up were arrested in a major fraud case (Antwerp Ship Repair) as you can check in this newspaper report:
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail ... d=721B8VMR

Some other relevant articles:
http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail. ... d=H01B8SPR

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nl-NL/Ar ... angehouden

Any similarity with the names of the persons, company names and addresses is pure coincidence...

cathay belgium · Post by **cathay belgium** » 09 Mar 2012, 17:36

Hi ,

What bird will they bring to ANR, their ATP or their BAE,
can the B735 still land in antwerp and /or take-off ??

CX-B

andorra-airport · Post by **andorra-airport** » 09 Mar 2012, 17:40

Airbus A330 wrote:The 737-500 is Z3-AAM !
http://www.airliners.net/photo/MAT-Airw ... d24c840818

That was Sabena's OO-SYG!

frankyv1 · Post by **frankyv1** » 09 Mar 2012, 20:08

Hi, I don't really trust the site of kontiki sky. My security software says it might be a malicious site. I wanted to book a flight but checked some things and i'm a bit wary. So i checked the website of antwerp airport and it doesn't mention anything about kontiki starting flights from antwerp... I've written a mail to antwerp airport and am awaiting their answers. When I get the answer I'll post it here. I would be careful!

secondlife · Post by **secondlife** » 09 Mar 2012, 21:26

flights should be operated under the AOC of the romanian Alfa Air... But for the moment no A/C available for operations. Alfa Air has only 1 BAE 146-200 VIP and some GA aircrafts.

But Kontiki is not the only "start-up"this days... the seccond is Air Valee who has ambitious plans but, as Kon tiki sky, they do not have the fleet to opperate those flights. They are selling the tickets (even out of BRU) but I am courious what passengers will find in the airport the day they are suposed to fly.

crew1990 · Post by **crew1990** » 09 Mar 2012, 22:51

Obviously, the flights will be operated by Alfa Air

http://www.alfa-air.eu/en/index.html

cathay belgium · Post by **cathay belgium** » 09 Mar 2012, 22:59

Hi,

Don't think so..
a vip bae or a piper..

If anyone can confirmnthis isn't a waste of money,don't trust this...
Love to book London Southend,.. but with such amateuristic site,links to a dutch thief, I don't think I would spend a penny in them ,...

cxb

Passenger · Post by **Passenger** » 09 Mar 2012, 23:16

crew1990 wrote:Obviously, the flights will be operated by Alfa Air

BAE146-200 in VIP conf is indeed nice. But it's not the 737-500 Kon Tiki announces.

Furthermore, Alfa Air mentions the IATA logo on their site:
http://www.alfa-air.eu/en/aboutus.html

But I don't find them in the IATA list:
http://www.iata.org/membership/pages/ai ... x?All=true

EBAW · Post by **EBAW** » 10 Mar 2012, 11:13

Hi all,

I don't think that Kon Tiki Sky start with an B737 at EBAW.
I think that the runway is to short for an full loaded airplane!
British Airways has this problem some years ago with the ATR on the route Antwerp - Londen.
The capacityof the ATR was a max. of 80%.

To be continued.........!

Bralo20 · Post by **Bralo20** » 10 Mar 2012, 13:49

Back in the old days Sabena did fly out of ANR with the 732 AFAIK... Don't know if the were empty or full. Anyway I don't believe a single word out of this until I see the first plane arrive and take off.

andorra-airport · Post by **andorra-airport** » 10 Mar 2012, 14:30

Bralo20 wrote:Back in the old days Sabena did fly out of ANR with the 732 AFAIK... Don't know if the were empty or full.

To LHR and BRU, light because not much fuel needed. A heavy 737 will be a problem. They better come with a STOL aircraft.

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 10 Mar 2012, 14:38

According to: http://www.kontikisky.com
Antwerp

Dear passengers,

Due to last minute rescheduling Antwerp will not be a destination within our network. We apologize for any inconvenience caused.

Kind Regards,

Kon Tiki Sky.
Regards,

Dave

Passenger · Post by **Passenger** » 10 Mar 2012, 14:59

Here is another "realization" from the two guys behind the failure of Jets-Sky (AMS), the failure of Sobelair Sun Tours, and the bankruptcy of Antwerp Ship Repair (2007): the bankruptcy of CTR Antwerp - Container Trading & Repair in 2010:

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/article/detail ... d=H52T52N8

(regret, story about a company in Antwerp, so only available in Dutch. But http://translate.google.com/# can help you for free)

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