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The upgrade to 5 weekly for Kigali seems indeed only very temporary.

Besides that, SN starts operating to EDI as from Sunday: 6 weekly with A319, as from next summer season 12 weekly.
SN says the first booking results are very positive, the first flight departs with "hardly any seat left". The first Belgian sheduled flights to EDI since 2001 kikked off with excellent booking results and is well received amongst city trippers and business people. At least, that's what SN says in their press release.

http://brusselsairlines.prezly.com/brus ... is-weekend

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I must say I love Edinburgh.
Was there for business 3 times. Flying BDI each time (very good by the way)
It is a wonderful city ... I had not yet the chance to really visit the city (business trips usually do not allow to do this), and the surrounding region neither ...

I have now planned it for next year and I am really looking forward to it. Will definitely go for SN :D

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SN celebrating the first flight to EDI:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

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Can be old news....

Jet Airways will use the 77W again to Mumbai from 16 November On fri, sat and sun!

(i was not aware they stopped it??)

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Flightlevel.be made a nice summary of the changes at Brussels Airport at the beginning of this winter season:

New flights
  • Brussels Airlines to Edinburgh, 6 times weekly by A319, in competition with the 16 weekly flights of bmi Regional on smaller aircraft
  • easyJet to Basel, 6 times weekly by A319, in competition with the 11 weekly flights of Brussels Airlines
  • Thomas Cook Airlines Belgium to Sal and Boa Vista by Airbus A319, in competition with Jetairfly by Boeing 737.
  • Air Europa to Madrid by Embraer 190 in competition with Iberia and Brussels Airlines
Extra frequencies
  • Qatar Airways to Doha, from 5 to 7 weekly flights by Airbus A330-200 or -300
  • Thai Airways to Bangkok by Boeing 777-300ER with First Class instead of smaller 777-200ER, 4 weekly flights from February instead of 3
  • CSA Czech Airlines to Prague, 22 weekly flights instead of 17 with a daily additional Boeing 737-500
  • Air Baltic to Riga, 10 weekly flights instead of 8
  • British Airways to London Heathrow, 8 daily flights instead of 7
  • Aer Lingus to Cork, 4 weekly flights instead of 3
Cancelled flights
  • Brussels Airlines to 8 destinations, five of which are summer destinations which might be resumed next summer: Catania, Faro, Florence, Naples and Porto; and three destinations which are permanently cancelled: Athens, Cracow and Warsaw.
  • easyJet to Liverpool. The capacity has been transferred to Basel
  • Jet Airways to Chennai
  • Cyprus Airways to Larnaca, might resume in summer season
Reduced frequencies
  • TAP Air Portugal to Lisbon, one daily flight cancelled, leaving 16 weekly flights
  • Lufthansa to Frankfurt, two daily flights cancelled, leaving 8 daily flights
  • Delta Air Lines to Atlanta: 5 weekly flights instead of 7
Equipment changes
  • United Airlines to Newark: Boeing 777-200ER replaced by Boeing 767-400 without First Class
Will not start
  • OLT Express Polska to Gdansk and Warsaw
  • Brussels Airlines to Mombasa
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SabenaForever wrote:Jet Airways will use the 77W again to Mumbai from 16 November On fri, sat and sun!
Yes, but...

Jet Airways operates five B777-300ERs and according to website Bangalore Aviation the carrier will reconfigure its economy cabins from nine to ten-across.

It means Jet’s economy cabins will seat 310 passengers up from 274 passengers which in turn will boost revenue. Routes in and out of India are price sensitive so this move will enable Jet to better compete with its Gulf-based rivals on long stages to Europe.

The downside for the passengers point-of-view is that, besides having one more person per row, the seat width which is currently 18.5 ins, is cut to a tighter 17 ins.

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flyCongo has launched a weekly cargo service linking Kinshasa N'Djili International (FIH) with Brussels National Zaventem (BRU) on October 18. It offers the weekly flight in cooperation with UK cargo broker Magma Aviation and uses myCargo Airlines B747-400(F)s on the route.

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It seems that Aegean will start flying ATH-BRU-SXB-ATH from the end of September... I found this on Wikipedia (i know not always the best source). So i did some research and found this....

http://info.flightmapper.net/fr/flight/ ... nes_A3_621

And It seems they already flew this route in 2012, but only once a month!
My guess is that it is just to pick up or drop passengers for the europeean parlement?

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SabenaForever wrote: And It seems they already flew this route in 2012, but only once a month!
My guess is that it is just to pick up or drop passengers for the europeean parlement?
Yes this is for the EU, I believe Olympic Air already did this since years and Tarom as well. Also SN adds a huge amount of capacity once a month.

But I believe nothing will change about that, as it isn't something new?

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As you know SN recently introduced the Q400 on the Bristol and Newcastle routes, a picture and some information from Bristol:
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http://travelprnews.com/brussels-airlin ... 012/11/09/

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The codeshare of Brussels Airlines with Air Malta has been extended to the BRU-CPH route.
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sn26567 wrote:The codeshare of Brussels Airlines with Air Malta has been extended to the BRU-CPH route.
Indeed, SN got the codeshare to CPH and LH through MUC and FRA to OSL and ARN if I'm correct?

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MR_Boeing wrote:
sn26567 wrote:The codeshare of Brussels Airlines with Air Malta has been extended to the BRU-CPH route.
Indeed, SN got the codeshare to CPH and LH through MUC and FRA to OSL and ARN if I'm correct?
Indeed. Air Malta signed several codeshare agreement. And Etihad got the codeshare from LHR and MAN to Abu Dhabi; Austrian from VIE to BUC, WAW, JFK and YYZ; Meridiana Fly from FCO to TRN.

In addition, Air Malta has existing codeshare agreements with Aeroflot, CSA Czech Airlines and Turkish Airlines.
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EY has also started a codeshare with Air Seychelles

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According to wikipedia, Turkish Airlines operates flights between Brussels and the new Zafer Airport (also according to wikipedia opened on November 25). The only other route mentioned are flights to IST (also by TK) and as from the first of December Pegasus will start operations between Zafer Airport and SAW.

But is this correct? I didn't hear anything of TK starting a new route to BRU.

And not directly related to it, but how many times per week does TK operate between Eskisehir and BRU?

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Something I said in another topic some time ago:
Hoornaert also said things seem to be improving in Dakar (about the bilateral agreement between Senegal and Belgium). Currently SN is not allowed to fly out of DKR to another African destination, but that may soon change again. If so, that would have a great effect on the costs.
SN has some changes in their African network, including a partly return to the previous situation in Dakar. Dakar is currently served 4 weekly as a terminator flight. This situation will end as from 25 February (from airlineroute.net):

Brussels – Dakar eff 25FEB13 New operational routing; Conakry service increases from 2 to 3 weekly
SN205 BRU1125 – 1630DKR1730 – 1855CKY 333 247
SN206 CKY2025 – 2140DKR2240 – 0530+1BRU 333 247

SN205/206 replaces SN215/217 (See Banjul / Monrovia entry)

Brussels – Dakar – Freetown eff 25FEB13 New operational routing
SN237 BRU1125 – 1640DKR1740 – 1905FNA 333 136
SN238 FNA2015 – 2150DKR2250 – 0535BRU 333 136

SN237/238 replaces SN219 (See Banjul / Monrovia entry)

Overall operation for Dakar increases from 4 to 5 weekly, and will no longer operates terminator route


Though there is something wrong, they show both for FNA and CKY 3 weekly through DKR, while the total for DKR is said to be only 5 (and I believe FNA is currently served only 2 weekly, so either they upgrade FNA also or there is somthing wrong with that shedule).

Banjul (that served as alternative for DKR on the flights to FNA and CKY) will now be served 4 weekly (no change) in combination with Monrovia. As a result there are also changes in the flights to Abidjan and Ouagadougou. And also Central-Africa sees some changes as from late February/early March.

For all changes:
http://airlineroute.net/2012/12/03/sn-africa-feb13/

But I assume more changes are expected for S13?!

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Though there is something wrong, they show both for FNA and CKY 3 weekly through DKR, while the total for DKR is said to be only 5 (and I believe FNA is currently served only 2 weekly, so either they upgrade FNA also or there is somthing wrong with that shedule).
I checked it myself and Freetown will be upgraded to 3 weekly indeed, same as Conakry. That makes 3 weekly for each of them, both as tag-on for Dakar (which will be 6 weekly again as a result, up from 4 weekly as terminator flight).
Banjul was 3 weekly in the past (when it was also operated as tag-on for BRU-DKR), but was upgraded to 4 weekly when the DKR problems came up. Now it will remain 4 weekly (but not anymore in combination with Conakry and Freetown, but in combination with Monrovia which became also 4 weekly again this winter after Mombassa was cancelled).

Also some reorganisation around Douala, Yaounde, Kinshasa and Luanda. FIH was daily last summer (5/week dedicated and 2 weekly in combination with Luanda), this was downgraded to 5 weekly (3 dedicated, 2 in combination with Luanda). That will go up to 6 weekly again, but with less dedicated flights (down to 2 weekly BRU-FIH-BRU), the two weekly flights in combination with Luanda will be kept but operating days will be changed. Instead SN will operate one weekly BRU-Douala-FIH and one weekly BRU-Yaounde-FIH, making a total of 6 weekly for FIH. BRU-Douala-Yaounde will go down from 4 to 3 weekly as a result.

And there will be some reorganisation in the Abidjan/Ouagadougou/Cotonou services (as a result of Monrovia moving to a combination with Banjul instead of Abidjan), but no result in the amount of frequencies overthere.

So in short:

- Dakar: from 4 weekly dedicated to 6 weekly in combination with CKY and FNA
- Conakry: from 2 weekly in combination with Banjul to 3 weekly in combination with DKR
- Freetown: from 2 weekly in combination with Banjul to 3 weekly in combination with DKR
- Kinshasa: from 5 weekly to 6 weekly, but less non-stop services

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India’s Jet Airways beginning this month will introduce Airbus A330-300 aircraft to its operation. Initially planned operation, as well as seating configuration as follows.

Delhi – Brussels 22DEC12 only

Code: Select all

9W230 DEL0305 – 0750BRU 333
9W229 Currently displays 777-300ER service

Mumbai – Brussels eff 23DEC12 A330-300 operates 6 of 7 weekly flights

Code: Select all

9W228 BOM0245 – 0750BRU 333 x2
9W228 BOM0245 – 0750BRU 332 2

Code: Select all

9W227 BRU1005 – 2325BOM 333 x2
9W227 BRU1005 – 2325BOM 332 2
A330-300 replaced by Boeing 777-300ER from 04JAN13 to 06JAN13

Source: Airlineroute

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Germanwings already codeshares with SWISS and Austrian. It has now been announced that they will also codeshare with Brussels Airlines, but the date has not yet been set.
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Pictures of the new A330-300 of Jet Airways! The Business class looks much better than those aisle seats...

http://www.luchtvaartfoto.nl/item/1008/ ... irways.htm

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