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RoMax wrote: As long as the current terminal can handle the pax, I don't see the need for a second (possibly dedicated) terminal. But I believe there is a second terminal included in the (very) long term plans of the airport. With A Pier West SN and partners can already operate under one roof, so there is no need to build a complete new terminal building for that as well, at least as long as the current building can hanle the demand.
Sorry i was't meaning a proper terminal, I was more referring to the pear.

To me it would be logical that all the airlines of star alliance operate from the same pear. They could all operate from the pear A for example plus the Long haul of SN, Thai, Us Airways and Jetarways could operate from there.

Of course there is no need for any new terminal for the moment ;)

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crew1990 wrote: Sorry i was't meaning a proper terminal, I was more referring to the pear.

To me it would be logical that all the airlines of star alliance operate from the same pear. They could all operate from the pear A for example plus the Long haul of SN, Thai, Us Airways and Jetarways could operate from there.
In that case the answer is very simple: A Pier West will enable SN and its codeshare partners to locate their flights under one roof, being Pier A. New A Pier West would handle all the non-schengen operations, with the existing part the schengen operations.

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RoMax wrote:A Pier West will enable SN and its codeshare partners to locate their flights under one roof, being Pier A. New A Pier West would handle all the non-schengen operations, with the existing part the schengen operations.
In that case, where would you locate the Schengen operations of non-Star airlines? Pier B would of course continue to handle their non-Schengen operations.
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sn26567 wrote:
RoMax wrote:A Pier West will enable SN and its codeshare partners to locate their flights under one roof, being Pier A. New A Pier West would handle all the non-schengen operations, with the existing part the schengen operations.
In that case, where would you locate the Schengen operations of non-Star airlines? Pier B would of course continue to handle their non-Schengen operations.
Just in Pier A as well... The only thing that has to change/will change is adding A Pier West for the SN/Star non-Schengen operations.
Operations under one roof doesn't mean you have to ban the rest as long as there is enough capacity.

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RoMax wrote:
sn26567 wrote:
RoMax wrote:A Pier West will enable SN and its codeshare partners to locate their flights under one roof, being Pier A. New A Pier West would handle all the non-schengen operations, with the existing part the schengen operations.
In that case, where would you locate the Schengen operations of non-Star airlines? Pier B would of course continue to handle their non-Schengen operations.
Just in Pier A as well... The only thing that has to change/will change is adding A Pier West for the SN/Star non-Schengen operations.
Operations under one roof doesn't mean you have to ban the rest as long as there is enough capacity.
But if you would move all star alliance and codeshare partners of SN to pier A and keep all the Schengen operations on pier A too, not much would be left in pier B I would think... United, US Airways, Air Canada, Thai, Hainan, Etihad, Delta and Jet Airways are Star Alliance or codeshare partners of SN so only Jetairfly long haul, British Airways, Ethiopian, Qatar, El Al and Aeroflot would be at pier B?

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Thomaaas wrote: But if you would move all star alliance and codeshare partners of SN to pier A and keep all the Schengen operations on pier A too, not much would be left in pier B I would think... United, US Airways, Air Canada, Thai, Hainan, Etihad, Delta and Jet Airways are Star Alliance or codeshare partners of SN so only Jetairfly long haul, British Airways, Ethiopian, Qatar, El Al and Aeroflot would be at pier B?
Don't include US Airways (leaving for Oneworld), neither Delta (most important Skyteam member), Jet Airways only partly and for how long will they stay...and I'm not sure Etihad should really be in the same pier as well. Pier B would be left with airlines like Jetairfly (non-schengen, includes quite some flights besides long haul), Thomas Cook (non-schengen), Royal Air Maroc, Air Arabia, Turkish Airlines (Star member, but no SN partner), British Airways, Ethiopian Airlines, US Airways, Delta Air Lines, Aer Lingus, Aeroflot, Air Algérie, Air Transat, Air Serbia, bmi, Corendon, easyJet (non-schengen routes, currently non, but soon LGW will start), MEA, Nouvelair, Pegasus, Freebird, TAROM (a SN codeshare partner, but not a major one so they could stay in Pier B), Tunisair, Ukraine International Airlines (same as Tarom) and I probably forget some more (especially summer charters to non-schengen destinations).

But indeed it will leave Pier B with a lot of overcapacity (it's already quite empty in the afternoon). But that's also why BRU will not built A Pier West untill they need the capacity. And because of the recent developments, that's expected to be later than some years ago. But no doubt non-schengen will continue to grow beyond SN/Star, so it's not like Pier B would be empty suddenly. And as I mentionned with some airlines above, they are not all major partners, they could stay at Pier B (despite 'under one roof operations' it often happens that certain smaller partners are still located in another terminal or section of the terminal than its partners).
Depending on the size of A Pier West BRU could also say: all long haul flights that matter to SN/Star Alliance hub operations, as well as the complete SN operations (so including the UK, Russia, Israel,.. operations of SN), with the rest (short/mid haul partners) remaining at Pier B. Or determining that depending on the share of transfer traffic.

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Boeing767copilot wrote:Meridiana, second largest airline in Italy, will fly Brussels - Olbia weekly as from june 7'th with 737.
According to Airline Route: Olbia – Brussels 13JUN14 – 12SEP14 1 weekly 737 (Air Italy Aircraft)
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Etihad Airways expands European connections

Etihad Airways and Latvian flag-carrier airBaltic have expanded their codeshare agreement. The move, which comes five months after the initial agreement between the two carriers, will mean a substantial increase in the number of destinations covered.

The Latvian airline already places its BT code on Etihad flights between Abu Dhabi and Muscat, while Abu Dhabi-based Etihad currently places its EY code on airBaltic services beyond Riga to 10 Nordic and Baltic cities.

Under the newly expanded agreement, the codeshare will cover routes from Amsterdam, Brussels, Frankfurt, Munich and Zurich to Abu Dhabi and Riga.

Subject to further government approvals, Etihad plans to codeshare on airBaltic services beyond Riga to Kiev, Tbilisi, Palanga and Gothenburg.
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From 30MAR14, brussels airlines begins codeshare partnership with bmi Regional on Brussels-Newcastle 11 weekly flights.

Source: Airline Route

See more information on Newcastle Airport press release: viewtopic.php?p=296167#p296167

Could this first codeshare agreement between SN and BM lead to further cooperation on the other route operated by bmi Regional, East Midlands?
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Thomas Cook to lease four A320s this summer for UK/Belgium

Thomas Cook Airlines UK will wet-lease a total of four A320-200s for the upcoming summer season. Two A320-200s sourced from SmartLynx Airlines will be based out of London Gatwick and Newcastle while one of two A320s sourced from Avion Express is to be based out of Cardiff.

A second Avion Express A320 will be forwarded to the airline's Belgian sister carrier, Thomas Cook Airlines Belgium.

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The US Airways flights between Brussels and Charlotte and between Brussels and Philadelphia will be codeshared with British Airways and with Iberia, now that US Airways has officially joined the oneworld alliance.
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After BRU-NCL, a second Brussels Airlines codeshare with bmi Regional between East Midlands and Brussels will begin next week.
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Would be nice if in return, BMI could code share on the EDI, BRS, BHX and MAN, and why not on some european destination of SN.

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crew1990 wrote:Would be nice if in return, BMI could code share on the EDI, BRS, BHX and MAN, and why not on some european destination of SN.
I think more will be coming in the future. Don't forget the agreement with SN on the NCL route was the very first codeshare agreement of bmi regional since they were sold and stopped all their previous codeshare agreements. Now they started building up their partnerships with strong partners again. SN is one of them, LH another one (BD and LH will codeshare again on Bristol - Munich and Bristol - Frankfurt).

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Hainan Airlines begins code share with SN on Africans routes :

Brussels - Kigali - Entebbe HU 8099 then EBB - BRU HU 8101
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Hainan Airlines begins code share with SN on Africans routes :

Brussels - Kigali - Entebbe HU 8099 then EBB - BRU HU 8101
I can't stress enough how important the Africa-China link is for SN.

If SN can't open routes to China, the least they should do is try very hard to pull alliance partner Air China, who can bring much more weight to their African network than Hainan.
HU is too small to support SN and in addition, they seem to have plans of their own for Africa: they own 42% into Africa World Airlines.

Air China is the flag carrier of China, which brings diplomatic traffic.

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eff 05JUN14 Charlotte – Brussels Seasonal service 4 weekly until 17AUG14 (from CLT; Previously planned daily service until 01SEP14)

US762 CLT1630 – 0700+1BRU 762 x136
US763 BRU1015 – 1345CLT 762 156
US763 BRU1030 – 1400CLT 762 3

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Jet Airways from 04MAY14 to 14JUN14 is temporary re-introducing Boeing 777-300ER service to Brussels, replacing Airbus A330-200/-300 aircraft. Planned operational schedule as follow.

Delhi – Brussels

Code: Select all

9W230 DEL0240 – 0755BRU 77W x123
9W230 DEL0240 – 0755BRU 333 123
9W229 BRU1010 – 2145DEL 77W x123
9W229 BRU1010 – 2145DEL 333 123
9W230/229 on selected dates continues to be operated by A330-300, instead of 777-300ER.

Mumbai – Brussels

Code: Select all

9W228 BOM0205 – 0750BRU 77W x57
9W228 BOM0205 – 0750BRU 333 57
9W227 BRU1010 – 2240BOM 77W x57
9W227 BRU1010 – 2240BOM 333 57
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SabenaForever wrote:Jet Airways from 04MAY14 to 14JUN14 is temporary re-introducing Boeing 777-300ER service to Brussels, replacing Airbus A330-200/-300 aircraft. Planned operational schedule as follow.

Delhi – Brussels
9W230 DEL0240 – 0755BRU 77W x123
9W230 DEL0240 – 0755BRU 333 123
9W229 BRU1010 – 2145DEL 77W x123
9W229 BRU1010 – 2145DEL 333 123
9W230/229 on selected dates continues to be operated by A330-300, instead of 777-300ER.

Mumbai – Brussels
9W228 BOM0205 – 0750BRU 77W x57
9W228 BOM0205 – 0750BRU 333 57
9W227 BRU1010 – 2240BOM 77W x57
9W227 BRU1010 – 2240BOM 333 57
Don't these 777s continue to Newark and Toronto?
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sn26567 wrote: Don't these 777s continue to Newark and Toronto?
Nope, those rotations will still be done by A330's.

Edit* That does mean that there are more pax flying between Belgium and India ;)

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